Comments on: Universal Energy: Scammers? http://boedesign.com/blog/2008/05/31/universal-energy-scammers/ The dabbling of various web technologies by Jordan Boesch Tue, 15 May 2012 09:31:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Watching the detectives http://boedesign.com/blog/2008/05/31/universal-energy-scammers/#comment-1006 Watching the detectives Sun, 03 Jan 2010 06:18:40 +0000 http://boedesign.com/?p=29#comment-1006 Andrew Steele The Ontario Tories' leadership race continues to get more divisive. The latest salvo is an anonymous attack on Frank Klees from quarters unknown, under the psuedonom "Tory Detective." The allegation is a serious one: that Mr. Klees is on the board of a company fined $200,000 by the Ontario Energy Board for making false and misleading statements. Mr. Klees was considered the best performer in the leadership debates, a wily blend of Brian Mulroney and Ernie Eves. He'd better keep it up. It will take every ounce of Irish Blarney and double-E slickness he can muster to explain away these claims. The e-mail read as follows: From: Tory Detective To: torydetective@yahoo.ca Sent: Sat May 30 22:24:05 2009 Subject: Frank Klees: Business Experience & Judgement? Uh oh.... Someone is walking the walk, but not talking the talk. Frank Klees wants Ontario PC Party members to believe that he should be elected leader due to his "business experience". But it looks like Frank's business experience may not be quite the positive attribute he once thought it was. And judgement? Well... Frankie sits on the Board for Universal Energy Group and is a member of the Audit Committee for the company. He even chairs the Compensation and Governance Committee. As reported by the Toronto Star earlier this year, that same company - Universal Energy Group - was fined $200,000 by the Ontario Energy Board for making "false, misleading or deceptive statements to consumers." A copy of the order (which isn't the first time) can be found here. And another one in April (wasn't there a Leadership going on then?). And the people are some angry. Victims of the "Universal Energy Scam" can be found talking about their experiences. ... But Frank doesn't just sit on the Board. Universal Energy CEO Mark Silver, through his company, OPTUS Capital Corporation, made the single biggest donation to Frank's campaign: a whopping $34,000 - about 20% of his entire campaign. Frank's campaign even reported the donation in the real-time donor disclosures to Elections Ontario. Wow. Frank's "business experience" seems to entail managing an energy company ripping off old ladies door-to-door. Judgement, indeed. Hope you find this enlightening. Andrew Steele

The Ontario Tories’ leadership race continues to get more divisive.

The latest salvo is an anonymous attack on Frank Klees from quarters unknown, under the psuedonom “Tory Detective.”

The allegation is a serious one: that Mr. Klees is on the board of a company fined $200,000 by the Ontario Energy Board for making false and misleading statements.

Mr. Klees was considered the best performer in the leadership debates, a wily blend of Brian Mulroney and Ernie Eves. He’d better keep it up. It will take every ounce of Irish Blarney and double-E slickness he can muster to explain away these claims.

The e-mail read as follows:

From: Tory Detective

To: torydetective@yahoo.ca

Sent: Sat May 30 22:24:05 2009

Subject: Frank Klees: Business Experience & Judgement? Uh oh….

Someone is walking the walk, but not talking the talk.

Frank Klees wants Ontario PC Party members to believe that he should be elected leader due to his “business experience”. But it looks like Frank’s business experience may not be quite the positive attribute he once thought it was. And judgement? Well…

Frankie sits on the Board for Universal Energy Group and is a member of the Audit Committee for the company. He even chairs the Compensation and Governance Committee.

As reported by the Toronto Star earlier this year, that same company – Universal Energy Group – was fined $200,000 by the Ontario Energy Board for making “false, misleading or deceptive statements to consumers.”

A copy of the order (which isn’t the first time) can be found here.

And another one in April (wasn’t there a Leadership going on then?).

And the people are some angry. Victims of the “Universal Energy Scam” can be found talking about their experiences.

…

But Frank doesn’t just sit on the Board. Universal Energy CEO Mark Silver, through his company, OPTUS Capital Corporation, made the single biggest donation to Frank’s campaign: a whopping $34,000 – about 20% of his entire campaign.

Frank’s campaign even reported the donation in the real-time donor disclosures to Elections Ontario.

Wow. Frank’s “business experience” seems to entail managing an energy company ripping off old ladies door-to-door. Judgement, indeed.

Hope you find this enlightening.

]]> By: fiammybe http://boedesign.com/blog/2008/05/31/universal-energy-scammers/#comment-582 fiammybe Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:45:57 +0000 http://boedesign.com/?p=29#comment-582 Jordan, now you see why there are women on earth: while men are busy fighting in the trenches (like you were doing), they can look at the issue from a distance, and help out with reason when needed. It pays literally to have somebody present at such moments when somebody is desperately trying to sell you something. When you have the advantage of numbers, you won't feel intimidated that easily. Glad you didn't sign up. Someone once said 'When it's too good to be true, it usually is'. I believe him. Take care. Jordan,
now you see why there are women on earth: while men are busy fighting in the trenches (like you were doing), they can look at the issue from a distance, and help out with reason when needed.
It pays literally to have somebody present at such moments when somebody is desperately trying to sell you something. When you have the advantage of numbers, you won’t feel intimidated that easily.
Glad you didn’t sign up. Someone once said ‘When it’s too good to be true, it usually is’. I believe him.

Take care.

]]> By: Anon http://boedesign.com/blog/2008/05/31/universal-energy-scammers/#comment-523 Anon Sat, 21 Mar 2009 06:01:58 +0000 http://boedesign.com/?p=29#comment-523 The energy wholesalers hire recent immigrants who barely speak english because: a) they are desperate for a job; b) their broken english will make it easier for the wholesaler to excuse their agent's misbehavior. The energy wholesalers hire recent immigrants who barely speak english because: a) they are desperate for a job; b) their broken english will make it easier for the wholesaler to excuse their agent’s misbehavior.

]]> By: Billy http://boedesign.com/blog/2008/05/31/universal-energy-scammers/#comment-212 Billy Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:43:09 +0000 http://boedesign.com/?p=29#comment-212 Jordan bud, You hit my thread and I am happy to hear you did not buy their crap, because that's all it is CRAP. Cheers, Bill Jordan bud,

You hit my thread and I am happy to hear you did not buy their crap, because that’s all it is CRAP.

Cheers,

Bill

]]> By: Fred http://boedesign.com/blog/2008/05/31/universal-energy-scammers/#comment-180 Fred Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:43:40 +0000 http://boedesign.com/?p=29#comment-180 The exact same strategy for me, by Direct Energy, 5 or 6 years ago. The salesperson introduced himself and said he was verifying that I had received my $50 gas rebate, so he needed to look at my gas bill. Little that I know he was in fact signing me up for a locked-in gas rate with a different company. This is a common strategy, these people should go to jail. The companies which conduct this type of SCAM, because it is a SCAM, need to be heavily fined. The exact same strategy for me, by Direct Energy, 5 or 6 years ago.
The salesperson introduced himself and said he was verifying that I had received my $50 gas rebate, so he needed to look at my gas bill.
Little that I know he was in fact signing me up for a locked-in gas rate with a different company.
This is a common strategy, these people should go to jail. The companies which conduct this type of SCAM, because it is a SCAM, need to be heavily fined.

]]> By: Ryan http://boedesign.com/blog/2008/05/31/universal-energy-scammers/#comment-156 Ryan Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:53:21 +0000 http://boedesign.com/?p=29#comment-156 I signed something like that when I lived in North Bay. The only difference was that a) it was Direct Energy, a company I had heard of and b) it was my Birthday, so I was under the influence and anything you sign "ui" is not legal. We ended up getting a $50 rebate cheque in the mail and saved a bit on our hydro. I was lucky I guess after hearing this! I signed something like that when I lived in North Bay. The only difference was that a) it was Direct Energy, a company I had heard of and b) it was my Birthday, so I was under the influence and anything you sign “ui” is not legal. We ended up getting a $50 rebate cheque in the mail and saved a bit on our hydro. I was lucky I guess after hearing this!

]]> By: Jordan Boesch http://boedesign.com/blog/2008/05/31/universal-energy-scammers/#comment-152 Jordan Boesch Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:26:25 +0000 http://boedesign.com/?p=29#comment-152 @Rye: I have no idea. It's scary stuff though. @Rye: I have no idea. It’s scary stuff though.

]]> By: Rye http://boedesign.com/blog/2008/05/31/universal-energy-scammers/#comment-151 Rye Sun, 01 Jun 2008 05:11:38 +0000 http://boedesign.com/?p=29#comment-151 Clever. I read that a guy had a court date to try to get money or shut them down. Any word on that? Clever. I read that a guy had a court date to try to get money or shut them down. Any word on that?

]]> By: Ben http://boedesign.com/blog/2008/05/31/universal-energy-scammers/#comment-150 Ben Sat, 31 May 2008 21:23:15 +0000 http://boedesign.com/?p=29#comment-150 WOW. That's creepy ... good thing you got both things back. WOW. That’s creepy … good thing you got both things back.

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